New Casting Bar
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pboi wrote:so you misread and thought I said people should spam the macro I wrote? I cant control your failings.
hope you enjoy the castbar
I said, and I repeat, why would someone want to do it? And I think my input was still valid nonetheless, and you could have simply explained it instead, but ok.... I won't be using any castbar anyway, going to Brazil for a month in a few days, and I doubt i'll be on-line before i come back. Good luck with new bosses.
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Hic - Veteran
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Hic, you are the one who misunderstood everything.
This macro has nothing to do with how to stop overhealing, the purpose of the macro is to enable those who have high latency to cast spells faster (because of a client/server side check).
In my eyes, your conversation looks like this:
Mondragon: If you use this macro, you can't spam it or it won't work! In other words, don't use it if you are not paying attention.
Hic: What's the point in spamming the macro?
Mondragon: Who said you should spam it?
*Hic insinuates Mondragon lacks short term memory, quoting Mondragon saying you can't spam the macro, while refering to Santa Clause*
*Mondragon counter retorts to Hics santa clause reference*
*Hic starts flaming*
This macro has nothing to do with how to stop overhealing, the purpose of the macro is to enable those who have high latency to cast spells faster (because of a client/server side check).
In my eyes, your conversation looks like this:
Mondragon: If you use this macro, you can't spam it or it won't work! In other words, don't use it if you are not paying attention.
Hic: What's the point in spamming the macro?
Mondragon: Who said you should spam it?
*Hic insinuates Mondragon lacks short term memory, quoting Mondragon saying you can't spam the macro, while refering to Santa Clause*
*Mondragon counter retorts to Hics santa clause reference*
*Hic starts flaming*
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- Carla
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i got it the first time. Why is it even an issue? Why would someone even want to spamm it? I didn't get the whole point point of the warning, so I asked.
But idea of my post was explaining why you couldn't even if you did want to spamm it.
Obviously, after the later posts I got what he meant, but that doesn't make my request any less valid.
PS: as i said before, it has nothing to do with Spirited, he was, indeed, a lot more classy.
But idea of my post was explaining why you couldn't even if you did want to spamm it.
Obviously, after the later posts I got what he meant, but that doesn't make my request any less valid.
PS: as i said before, it has nothing to do with Spirited, he was, indeed, a lot more classy.
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Hic wrote:i got it the first time.
No, you didn't, or you wouldn't have started talking about your anti over healing macro. This macro has nothing to do with how to stop casting, overhealing, or anything. The fact that it might stop your casting is a bad side effect that you prevent by timing it instead of spamming.
Hic wrote:Why is it even an issue? Why would someone even want to spamm it? I didn't get the whole point point of the warning, so I asked.
Because of laziness? Ever heard of frost bolt spamming? Shadow bolt spamming? People spam their abilites so they will activate as soon as the previous spell has been casted. Spamming any given spell that you cast repeatedly over time enables you to put more attention to the environment.
I thought what I said above was obvious to anyone.
Hic wrote:But idea of my post was explaining why you couldn't even if you did want to spamm it.
Then how come you didn't (explain it)?
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Carla wrote:Hic wrote:i got it the first time.
No, you didn't, or you wouldn't have started talking about your anti over healing macro. This macro has nothing to do with how to stop casting, overhealing, or anything. The fact that it might stop your casting is a bad side effect that you prevent by timing it instead of spamming.Hic wrote:Why is it even an issue? Why would someone even want to spamm it? I didn't get the whole point point of the warning, so I asked.
Because of laziness? Ever heard of frost bolt spamming? Shadow bolt spamming? People spam their abilites so they will activate as soon as the previous spell has been casted. Spamming any given spell that you cast repeatedly over time enables you to put more attention to the environment.
I thought what I said above was obvious to anyone.Hic wrote:But idea of my post was explaining why you couldn't even if you did want to spamm it.
Then how come you didn't (explain it)?
now I'm convinced you didn't even read the posts. I mentioned the macro way way after the conversation started as the reason I knew the consequences of spamming such a macro.
If you read his post you'd see that to use his latency meter you obviously can't be spamming the key to get the spell out faster or it'd defeat the whole system, hence, I questioned why would anyone even want to spamm it? since I wasn't getting how could that be a problem.
I did explain it, but again, you didn't read the post. When wow 2.0 came I even got to ask an american to post in their UI forum about it, I said that for 1 or 1.5 seconds after the cast started you can't press it again and even mentioned situations where you might want to do it.
I don't care if you side with him, but I do care if you do mindless bashing...
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Kilik wrote:ahahahahathat thread reminds me the old hic vs spirited fights
daaaamn good old times
LOL.. this gnoam speaks the true!!!!1
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Carla, Never argue with idiots over the Internet, they will bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience. Its an impossible task.
Just retreat from the thread in the knowledge you are right.
Just retreat from the thread in the knowledge you are right.
Gear and spec don't put you on top of the meter unless everyone is playing perfectly. <b>Effort puts you on top</b>. Play to the strengths of your gear and spec, know your tank, know your situation.
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pboi wrote:Carla, Never argue with idiots over the Internet, they will bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience. Its an impossible task.
Just retreat from the thread in the knowledge you are right.
now that's some bad attitude. but still you fail
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pboi wrote:Carla, Never argue with idiots over the Internet, they will bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience. Its an impossible task.
Just retreat from the thread in the knowledge you are right.
But I like to argue
Hic wrote:now I'm convinced you didn't even read the posts. I mentioned the macro way way after the conversation started as the reason I knew the consequences of spamming such a macro.
If you by "way way after" mean your first post, then yes.
It seems like you still think this has something to do with stopping a spell to cast.
If you didn't, I don't think you'd say "it'd only work well if you press it over 1 second or 1.5 seconds after you started casting."
You see, you don't use Mondragons macro relatively to when you START casting, but when you FINISH casting.
Here's further proof that you think it's about stopping casting:
"I kind of got the "feeling" of my latency (where to click to stop the cast and it actually stopping). "
The whole point of the macro is to NOT stop the casting.
Hic wrote:If you read his post you'd see that to use his latency meter you obviously can't be spamming the key to get the spell out faster or it'd defeat the whole system, hence, I questioned why would anyone even want to spamm it? since I wasn't getting how could that be a problem.
Maybe fast cast worked even if you spammed? Or if someone didn't grasp the concept of the macro?
Hic wrote:I did explain it, but again, you didn't read the post. When wow 2.0 came I even got to ask an american to post in their UI forum about it, I said that for 1 or 1.5 seconds after the cast started you can't press it again and even mentioned situations where you might want to do it.
I don't care if you side with him, but I do care if you do mindless bashing...
No, you didn't. You only described a solution to a problem you encountered (which wouldn't be a problem since there's no point in using the macro until at the end of your casting). An explanation of the problem would be a description of WHY you couldn't use this macro before 1,5 secs of your casting has passed, but then again, that information would be more or less pointless since anyone who understood the concept of the macro would understand that you are supposed to use it when you are about to finish casting ( when you've reached the red part of quartz).
Or did you use this macro with flash heals?
If you'd use this macro for gheal that would be quite retarded, since you'd start casting your second gheal before your first one goes off on your screen, removing all control of overhealing.
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Carla wrote:pboi wrote:Carla, Never argue with idiots over the Internet, they will bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience. Its an impossible task.
Just retreat from the thread in the knowledge you are right.
But I like to argueHic wrote:now I'm convinced you didn't even read the posts. I mentioned the macro way way after the conversation started as the reason I knew the consequences of spamming such a macro.
If you by "way way after" mean your first post, then yes.
It seems like you still think this has something to do with stopping a spell to cast.
If you didn't, I don't think you'd say "it'd only work well if you press it over 1 second or 1.5 seconds after you started casting."
You see, you don't use Mondragons macro relatively to when you START casting, but when you FINISH casting.
Here's further proof that you think it's about stopping casting:
"I kind of got the "feeling" of my latency (where to click to stop the cast and it actually stopping). "
The whole point of the macro is to NOT stop the casting.
The macro I tried was to chain cast, and it worked like this, you started, waited till the spell is almost done (you need the "feel" of your latency for this) press the macro before it reaches the end and casts IF the target is at 100%, let it land if it isn.t. This way you get continuous casting. Very similar to what he meant BUT you're supposed to press it before it reaches the red, instead of pressing after.
Hic wrote:If you read his post you'd see that to use his latency meter you obviously can't be spamming the key to get the spell out faster or it'd defeat the whole system, hence, I questioned why would anyone even want to spamm it? since I wasn't getting how could that be a problem.
Maybe fast cast worked even if you spammed? Or if someone didn't grasp the concept of the macro?
Because I didn't grasp the idea of why would someone do it, I asked "why would someone even do it?" O_o
Hic wrote:I did explain it, but again, you didn't read the post. When wow 2.0 came I even got to ask an american to post in their UI forum about it, I said that for 1 or 1.5 seconds after the cast started you can't press it again and even mentioned situations where you might want to do it.
I don't care if you side with him, but I do care if you do mindless bashing...
No, you didn't. You only described a solution to a problem you encountered (which wouldn't be a problem since there's no point in using the macro until at the end of your casting). An explanation of the problem would be a description of WHY you couldn't use this macro before 1,5 secs of your casting has passed, but then again, that information would be more or less pointless since anyone who understood the concept of the macro would understand that you are supposed to use it when you are about to finish casting ( when you've reached the red part of quartz).
Or did you use this macro with flash heals?
Actually, it does, scorch is not 2.5 seconds, it's 1.5 and someone would get into trouble if he pressed the key too soon, for example. But I did explain it sharing my experience as a healer.
If you'd use this macro for gheal that would be quite retarded, since you'd start casting your second gheal before your first one goes off on your screen, removing all control of overhealing.
You'd obviously have to press it before it reached the latency meter if you didn't want it to land, it's a chaincasting mechanism that works (I did level my priest to 70 before doing the warlock, and it did work well. Way more intuitive than moving back and forth and / or jumping since it makes you loose some cast time)
Now I don't know if you didn't read the thread, or you didn't get it O_o
PS: If you can't level with me or Carla (while arguing) don't. Going for insults won't help your cause or prove your "point".
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Hic wrote:Because I didn't grasp the idea of why would someone do it, I asked "why would someone even do it?" O_o
What is there to grasp? It's obvious why people spam their spells, and I've already stated why in my earlier posts.
Hic wrote:Actually, it does, scorch is not 2.5 seconds, it's 1.5 and someone would get into trouble if he pressed the key too soon, for example. But I did explain it sharing my experience as a healer.
But Mondragon already said you have to press it when quartz have reached the red part.
What happens if you press it too soon?
You mean the fact that the spell won't trigger cast again, but only stop the current one that's casting? That's pretty self explainatory since everyone should know about the GCD by now. If you press the macro again before GCD has finished, it will only stop the cast but not recast it since your spell still have a CD.
Is that what you're trying to say, or does something else happen?
Hic wrote:You'd obviously have to press it before it reached the latency meter if you didn't want it to land, it's a chaincasting mechanism that works (I did level my priest to 70 before doing the warlock, and it did work well. Way more intuitive than moving back and forth and / or jumping since it makes you loose some cast time)
Now I don't know if you didn't read the thread, or you didn't get it O_o
Yes, but Mondragon already said that in his post so you're just repeating his words o.O
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